• Sir G'kar@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    Seems like what’s needed is the ability to load an alternate profile or some kind of demo mode based on the pin. Something that looks normal but doesn’t have any info you don’t want others to see, without actually deleting anything.

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      12 days ago

      Dont think that would be as secure. Once a phone has been unlocked after reboot, even if it has been locked again, the operating system and ram can be accessed quite easily with the correct tools and border controls have those tools.

      Even a Graphene phone is only properly secure before first unlock after reboot. So i would not personally rely on allowing acess to any profile. I would assume its possible, (probably trivial) to gain complete access from there.

      Any duress pin use should be covered under a person’s right to avoid self incrimination.

      If the phone is owned by your employer and they are the investigation target, then you might be on dodgy ground.

    • fodor@lemmy.zip
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      11 days ago

      Nothing is needed. Erase your shit before you travel in or out of the US.

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      12 days ago

      I had this feature on a Xiaomi phone that i had a few years ago. I could even set up the fingerprint reader to open a different profile depending on which finger i used.

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      12 days ago

      Alternately, a user profile that isn’t displayed anywhere, but accessible only through a specific PIN, maybe. Not sure how you’d explain the storage space either option used, however.

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        12 days ago

        It should work like truecrypt used to where there’s no sign some of the encrypted blob is not actually visible in the fake os.

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          12 days ago

          I think the point is that if you load an empty profile (no photos, no videos, no apps, etc) but your phone storage is nearly full, it could throw up a red flag.

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            That’s why the fake profile would not show that the storage is full. Unless they try to load lots of data onto the fake profile it would not be obvious.

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    12 days ago

    You have to carry a piece of paper in your wallet that contains a PIN. The piece of paper contains no further information, just a PIN. You decline to answer any questions regarding this piece of paper or your phone’s PIN.

    This might not be a good idea, depending on your jurisdiction.

    • Melobol@lemmy.ml
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      12 days ago

      You can have a business card with a "phone"number on it. (Your pin can be any part of that number it is only you who needs to know where to start reading the code). You don’t need to have a sus number only piece of paper. :)

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        12 days ago

        The point is that the cops would find and enter the pin.

        It’s the wipe pin.

        They wiped it, not you.

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    This is yesterday’s news. Destroying evidence is a crime in a lot of jurisdictions. With that in mind, I don’t understand how somebody who apparently uses Graphene OS didn’t bring an empty burner when crossing one of the most notorious borders in the world.

    Which isn’t to say that the laws that require you to unlock your phone and that throw you in jail if you securely wipe it aren’t hostile and inhumane.

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      How are they supposed to know there was evidence on it? I’m allowed to delete my files, aren’t I?

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        12 days ago

        Be careful not to swallow your spit. They may think you’re swallowing a bomb and shoot you on the spot.

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        They aren’t but it is the same as if you have been accused of murdering some one and you burn the car you are accused of moving the body to the river in.

        Edit: I am not saying i think its how i should work but its the logic behind it

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          This sounds a lot like proving my innocence instead of them having to prove guilt.

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      If I understand correctly they didn’t actually delete anything it just shreds the encryption keys so it can’t be accessed. Idk if the difference matters a whole lot though.

      • ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        No it wipes the data from the phone

        GrapheneOS provides users with the ability to set a duress PIN/Password that will irreversibly wipe the device (along with any installed eSIMs) once entered anywhere where the device credentials are requested

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