1. What about the other Gospels?

2. The Bible/ witness accounts of the women

3. He is not

4. “Trolling” to bear inhumane torture?

5. He could’ve copped out ANY moment if he was speaking falsehood. No one had an agreeing testimony and he couldve just said so

and to fulfill the Old Testament

anything that has a beginning (this universe) in our plane cannot be eternal

1. Source for the lying claim?
2. So someone that looked identical to Jesus, with two men wearing pearly white sitting in his tomb and saying “he is not here, he is risen”

and why would Christ himself, if he was speaking falsehood, not say “I’m not God” before the pharisees and be pardoned? Why was he actually willing to endure inhumane torture instead of copping out?

3. We do have 500 witnesses

Hey so, maybe we cant comprehend an omniponent God because we are not omnipotent?

its basic reasoning

why are you trying to argue the universe is eternal?

I cannot invent something that already exists, right? I cant take a lightbulb and say I invented lightbulbs.

God relies completely on hinself, and why must he be experiencing time?

1. Their beliefs were not false.

2. James and Paul were basically skipping to get a CHANCE at disproving Christianity and they converted after investigating

3. His message was not even one of those things except dangerous (to the pharisees and rome). James and Paul converted after Jesus had been crucified, so how could they be convinced unless the risen Jesus came to them?

4. 500 people hallucinated the same thing at once?

The universe is not like that. It has a beginning so it CANNOT be eternal nor exist of itself

1. No, God has to be outside of time to create time for time cannot create time.

If God is outside of time, he has no beginning nor end, so he does not need a creator as he exists of himself

1. alright

2. This is a fact

3. He turned fishermen into scholars and philosophers and theologians. Their lives were radically transformed

4. I’m not sure you get this. This is like Donald Trump waking up one day, disbanding ICE, apologizing for his actions, turning himself in for those crimes and putting welfare above warfare.

5. Alright

6. If Jesus and his followers were lying, James and Paul would’ve been the PERFECT semi-biased-against-them investigators. But they investigated and converted.

7. If it was a hallucination, why would his tomb be empty and james and paul converted after investigation?

but the universe has a beginning and end, right?

false equivalence fallacy

urgently instructs him

if it was an actual rod, why would they be instructed instead of beaten?

The universe, as agreed upon is the combination of time, space and matter

so if it was created, the creator needs to be outside of time, space and matter and be powerful enough to create the universe and be loving enough to create it even though he didnt need it

The big bang itself has a beginning right? something cant be created from nothing.

FACT 1: A Jewish Rabbi named Jesus of Nazareth was killed by crucifixion in the first century by Roman executioners.

FACT 2: Jesus’ followers had real experiences after Jesus’ death that they believed were appearances of Jesus, risen from the dead.

FACT 3: Jesus’ followers’ lives were transformed as a result of this belief—even to the point of being willing to die for their belief in His resurrection.

FACT 4: James and Paul – both enemies of Jesus’ message – came to believe in Jesus’ resurrection and became Christians as a result. Both claimed the reason was that Jesus spoke to them after His death.

FACT 5: Jesus was buried in a tomb in Jerusalem which was found empty shortly after His death.

these are a series of facts most historians agree with

The body being stolen and the disciples lying cannot be true due to facts 4, 2 and 3

hallucination theories are proven false due to fact 4 and 5

Jesus “didnt really die” theories are disproven due to fact 1 and 4

the universe is definitely not eternal as it has an end.

It relies on the Big Bang to exist. If it has a beginning, it must have a cause.