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    1. Their beliefs were not false.

    2. James and Paul were basically skipping to get a CHANCE at disproving Christianity and they converted after investigating

    3. His message was not even one of those things except dangerous (to the pharisees and rome). James and Paul converted after Jesus had been crucified, so how could they be convinced unless the risen Jesus came to them?

    4. 500 people hallucinated the same thing at once?

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      Their beliefs were not false.

      According to you. That’s why I said “evidently”. There is no evidence for those claims.

      James and Paul were basically skipping to get a CHANCE at disproving Christianity and they converted after investigating

      They were lied to like everyone else.

      His message was not even one of those things except dangerous (to the pharisees and rome). James and Paul converted after Jesus had been crucified, so how could they be convinced unless the risen Jesus came to them?

      Seizures. Liars. Some guy could have shown up and said “it’s me, the risen Jesus. Here’s how you can serve me going forward.”

      It is a dangerous message to all life because it is untrue. It’s a death cult.

      500 people hallucinated the same thing at once?

      No. We don’t have 500 eyewitness accounts. We have one guy (who made have had a medical problem) claiming there were 500 eyewitnesses. We don’t even have James’s account of seeing Jesus, do we?

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        1. Source for the lying claim?
        2. So someone that looked identical to Jesus, with two men wearing pearly white sitting in his tomb and saying “he is not here, he is risen”

        and why would Christ himself, if he was speaking falsehood, not say “I’m not God” before the pharisees and be pardoned? Why was he actually willing to endure inhumane torture instead of copping out?

        1. We do have 500 witnesses
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          Source for the lying claim?

          Magic isn’t real, dumbass dipshit.

          Source for literally any miracle?

          Source for literally any god?

          Fucking none. Real people die for your false beliefs. FUCKFACE.

          So someone that looked identical to Jesus

          Maybe, or just close enough, or Paul imagined it, or Paul made it up.

          with two men wearing pearly white sitting in his tomb and saying “he is not here, he is risen”

          Zero evidence that this took place.

          and why would Christ himself, if he was speaking falsehood

          Fuckface: by proclaiming himself christ, he is speaking falsehood. But he might not realize that he is lying because he’s fucking delusional.

          not say “I’m not God” before the pharisees and be pardoned?

          He was either huffing his own farts or trolling.

          Why was he actually willing to endure inhumane torture instead of copping out?

          Because he’s an idiot who didn’t think it would go that far.

          Why did he say, “my god, why have you forsaken me” if it was part of his plan and also he was god?

          We do have 500 witnesses

          No we don’t. We have Paul claiming there were 500 witnesses. Can you name 499 more?

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            2 days ago
            1. What about the other Gospels?

            2. The Bible/ witness accounts of the women

            3. He is not

            4. “Trolling” to bear inhumane torture?

            5. He could’ve copped out ANY moment if he was speaking falsehood. No one had an agreeing testimony and he couldve just said so

            and to fulfill the Old Testament

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              What about the other Gospels?

              They contradict each other.

              The Bible/ witness accounts of the women

              If the account is even true, they found an empty grave.

              You want to pretend that them being women lends more credence because (quite sexistly) the opinions of women were not valued as much back then, but actually it just makes sense they would be first because women were responsible for tending graves.

              He is not

              You’re just making shit up as it suits you.

              Fuck yourself.

              “Trolling” to bear inhumane torture?

              No, dumb fuck. He was a short-sighted idiot high on his own farts.

              He could’ve copped out ANY moment if he was speaking falsehood. No one had an agreeing testimony and he couldve just said so

              Right, he was as dangerously delusional as you are.

              and to fulfill the Old Testament

              You keep saying that like it means anything. He’s fulfilling slave rape?

              It’s all bullshit, you stupid coward.

              A song for you. https://snoopsqueak.com/video/102